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January 16, 2009

First guncontrol bill of 2009 HR45 federal Gun registration

Filed under: Gun Control — admin @ 11:22 am

This bill is now stuck and not expected to move. But this post is kept here for archive info.

Blair Holt’s Firearm Licensing and Record of Sale Act of 2009 (HR45 Introduced in House)

Full text here.

(a) Findings- Congress finds that–
(1) the manufacture, distribution, and importation of firearms is inherently commercial in nature;
(2) firearms regularly move in interstate commerce;
(3) to the extent that firearms trafficking is intrastate in nature, it arises out of and is substantially connected with a commercial transaction, which, when viewed in the aggregate, substantially affects interstate commerce;
(4) because the intrastate and interstate trafficking of firearms are so commingled, full regulation of interstate commerce requires the incidental regulation of intrastate commerce;
(5) gun violence in the United States is associated with the majority of homicides, over half the suicides, and two-thirds of non-fatal violent injuries; and
(6) on the afternoon of May 10, 2007, Blair Holt, a junior at Julian High School in Chicago, was killed on a public bus riding home from school when he used his body to shield a girl who was in the line of fire after a young man boarded the bus and started shooting.
(b) Sense of the Congress- It is the sense of the Congress that–
(1) firearms trafficking is prevalent and widespread in and among the States, and it is usually impossible to distinguish between intrastate trafficking and interstate trafficking; and
(2) it is in the national interest and within the role of the Federal Government to ensure that the regulation of firearms is uniform among the States, that law enforcement can quickly and effectively trace firearms used in crime, and that firearms owners know how to use and safely store their firearms.
(c) Purposes- The purposes of this Act and the amendments made by this Act are–
(1) to protect the public against the unreasonable risk of injury and death associated with the unrecorded sale or transfer of qualifying firearms to criminals and youth;
(2) to ensure that owners of qualifying firearms are knowledgeable in the safe use, handling, and storage of those firearms;
(3) to restrict the availability of qualifying firearms to criminals, youth, and other persons prohibited by Federal law from receiving firearms; and
(4) to facilitate the tracing of qualifying firearms used in crime by Federal and State law enforcement agencies.

You see congress can not regulate anything but interstate commerce so they just declare the guns in our homes interstate commerce and now they can require them to be licensed.

`(aa) Firearm Licensing Requirement-

`(1) IN GENERAL- It shall be unlawful for any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to possess a qualifying firearm on or after the applicable date, unless that person has been issued a firearm license–

(a) In General- In order to be issued a firearm license under this title, an individual shall submit to the Attorney General (in accordance with the regulations promulgated under subsection (b)) an application, which shall include–
(1) a current, passport-sized photograph of the applicant that provides a clear, accurate likeness of the applicant;
(2) the name, address, and date and place of birth of the applicant;
(3) any other name that the applicant has ever used or by which the applicant has ever been known;
(4) a clear thumb print of the applicant, which shall be made when, and in the presence of the entity to whom, the application is submitted;
(5) with respect to each category of person prohibited by Federal law, or by the law of the State of residence of the applicant, from obtaining a firearm, a statement that the individual is not a person prohibited from obtaining a firearm;
(6) a certification by the applicant that the applicant will keep any firearm owned by the applicant safely stored and out of the possession of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;
(7) a certificate attesting to the completion at the time of application of a written firearms examination, which shall test the knowledge and ability of the applicant regarding–
(A) the safe storage of firearms, particularly in the vicinity of persons who have not attained 18 years of age;
(B) the safe handling of firearms;
(C) the use of firearms in the home and the risks associated with such use;
(D) the legal responsibilities of firearms owners, including Federal, State, and local laws relating to requirements for the possession and storage of firearms, and relating to reporting requirements with respect to firearms; and
(E) any other subjects, as the Attorney General determines to be appropriate;
(8) an authorization by the applicant to release to the Attorney General or an authorized representative of the Attorney General any mental health records pertaining to the applicant;
(9) the date on which the application was submitted; and
(10) the signature of the applicant.

So you have to apply to the new Obama anti gun att general to get permission to keep your gun.
So much for Obama not being anti gun Hu. I don’t see Obama saying he won’t pass this new democrat party bill.

This law is unconstitutional because guns in our homes are not interstate commerce 1 and 2 even if they were it violates your 2nd amendment right to have a gun if you can not pass the permit rules not to mention the huge fees they will charge to prevent you from applying.

SEC. 202. FIREARM RECORDS.

(a) Submission of Sale or Transfer Reports- Not later than 14 days after the date on which the transfer of qualifying firearm is processed by a licensed dealer under section 922(bb) of title 18, United States Code (as added by section 201 of this Act), the licensed dealer shall submit to the Attorney General (or, in the case of a licensed dealer located in a State that has a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of this Act, to the head of the State agency that administers that system) a report of that transfer, which shall include information relating to–

(1) the manufacturer of the firearm;
(2) the model name or number of the firearm;
(3) the serial number of the firearm;
(4) the date on which the firearm was received by the transferee;
(5) the number of a valid firearm license issued to the transferee under title I of this Act; and
(6) the name and address of the individual who transferred the firearm to the transferee.
(b) Federal Record of Sale System- Not later than 9 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall establish and maintain a Federal record of sale system, which shall include the information included in each report submitted to the Attorney General under subsection (a).
(c) Elimination of Prohibition on Establishment of System of Registration- Section 926(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking the second sentence.

So just to make it worse the bill creates a national firearm database of all guns to be stored with the Attorney General.

269 Responses to “First guncontrol bill of 2009 HR45 federal Gun registration”

  1. Harold says:

    All of you are right on this issue. well one up there didn’t make much sense but thats to be expected.
    If someone breaks into your home, what good is a weapon stored in a locked room or vault with ammo somewhere else or the bolt of a rifle being stored away from the rifle. What is being done by Congress is to take baby steps on gun control to make it impossible to defend yourself. I guess their thinking is since you can’t use it, why have it? Personally, they will have to take my weapons from my dead hands. HB45 is offensive to any right thinking gun owner.
    Someone mentioned he should be President. Well, I am running for the Presidency. Check out lamb2012.com.Would appreciate feedback.

    • Harold says:

      I have another thought. If your rights aren’t important, why is it so important to Congress to take them away?

    • Robert Bohnert says:

      A libralist is a socolist is a communist. Remember what Russia has said in the past; “We will take you over without firing a shot”? “We will do it from within!” They are doing it and have been since 1969 when prayer was taken out of our school. Look at today what is happining to our FREEDOMS!!!! No true American would be doing this. This is what happened In Russia, Japan, Germany. Actually in vertually every country in the world that has a Dictator or a Liberal President such as Clinton/Obama,among others, who is attempting to force thier liberal, self serving ways upon the population.

      Look at Washington D.C. For many years it was/is known as the murder capital of lthe Union because of the Gun Ban Mentality. Yes!!!! There may well be another civil war in this country Because People have lost all sorts of common sense, loylalty, and are too lazy to get out and pay attention and follow the background of political candidates and then turn out to vote for the ones who has a true heart for this country, its people and not for thier own selfish ideals.
      Lets do somthing for this country, its people and vote out the Liberals in the next election. Lets put people in office that has this country and its people, not the special intrest groups in mind.

  2. Ponieseatapplepie says:

    To Harold: That is why they want your guns in a cabnit. We own guns to protect our familily, even up here in North Dakota. I know people who are digging holes and storing their ammo, brass, guns, etc… there. This is Maddness, is the government nuts? OMG!!!! I’ll tell you what, I dont care if they search my house, my dad and i will be the first ones with the guns and the dogs, they will NOT touch anything in this house except for the door handle and the floor. This is scarry shit. people NEED to know about this. I personally think WWIII is going to happen right here in the U.S. It will be the government V.s. the people v.s. who knows.

    To Everyone else: OH MY GOD!!! What is happening with the Government. Hitler and Stalin did this to their contries, I guess its Clinton’s/Obama’s turn.

    They want power, thats all, the house and the senate are scared shitless. thats why they keep passing bills that will piss us off. they are afraid of a whole bunch of angy people storming up to the Capitol and having a shootout. Someone NEEDS to kick all these stupid asses out of the chairs and replace them with people who will accually do a decent job.

  3. Myron Hawryluk says:

    Congress does not have the authority to pass laws that are contrary to the U.S. Constitution. Congress is bound by the Constitution, by oath. Any laws they pass must be with-in the boundaries of the U.S. Constitution. Even if HR-45 is passed, no citizen is bound to obey it, the law is null and void. Common sense questions – Can congress outlaw freedom of speech, can congress outlaw the Constitution, can congress impose Communism, hell no, congress would be acting in the capacity of outlaws if they did. The 2nd amendment, in its entirety, is here to stay. Congress’s actions are nothing more than intimidation and bluff.

  4. Harry says:

    Congress is in a panic. The general upheaval caused by the tea parties and the town hall meetings have them spooked out of their socks. Their popularity is heading south quickly and they know it. Keep it up my fellow Americans. Hold their feet to the fire of truth. I am proud of you and I am with you. We should have done this 20 years ago and maybe we would not be in this mess.
    GOD bless the “Angry Mobs” as they call us(but who manage to clean up the area after a protest event) and GOD BLESS a free America. Give ‘em hell!!!!
    You are on the correct side and a lot of good people are with you. Do not let down. Hold your ground.
    Dig in and be ready for a long hard fight, if you want to remain free. Make no mistake, you are fighting Communists who have adopted the title of “Progressives” to hide their real agenda.
    They are tough and they are smart. They are sneaky and they are persistent. We must be the same, times 2 if we want our country back

  5. help stamp out too much Government. Please google HR 45 and then call your senator and Reps. This is the beginning of gun control.

  6. [...] these brain-dead individuals don’t understand that the criminals who commit these crimes don’t follow the law, so they will obtain firearms the same way they do today, on the black [...]

    • sal saccavino says:

      they understand ,they are afraid we will kill criminals Then they can’t coddle them and feel good about themselves

  7. sal saccavino says:

    these people are insane,they will not stop illegal guns. they realy want total control over us, and they fear we will fight back. no they will not take my guns they will have to arest me first.
    We must not allow them to leave us defenceless remember katrina they disarmed citizens when they needed defence the most. I also did all this to get my permit 20 years ago plus I was in the military and know gun safety. this is harrasment plane and simple.

    • sal saccavino says:

      In my home town in cheshire ct. two scumbags broke into a home one night and kicked the fathers ass then tied him up. they then went into the bed rooms, and raped his wife ,and daugters. when they were done they set them on fire, every night now I watch T.V. with a gun next to me and sleep with it at my bed side. If someone breaks into my home I will save the state the need of a trail. I sware this to GOD!

    • sal saccavino says:

      In my home town in cheshire ct. two scumbags broke into a home one night and kicked the fathers ass then tied him up. they then went into the bed rooms, and raped his wife ,and daugters. when they were done they set them on fire, every night now I watch T.V. with a gun next to me and sleep with it at my bed side. If someone breaks into my home I will save the state the need of a trial. I sware this to GOD!

  8. Mikeo says:

    It you people will check out the bill that you are so worried about, you will see since in went to committee it has gone nowhere. It can’t even get a co-sponsor, so it will die in committee. So you can quit fretting and sending emails to everyone.

    • pepperone says:

      no thier just waiting for “Us” to forget about it or side tracked with all thie other idiot stuff then they’ll run it thru.Just like the stuff on the healthcare bill,which ever bill it is.

      What ever they try NOW,being nice or pretending to take certain things out of all these bill..2010 & 2012 these guys need to goo.

  9. JAMES OSBORNE says:

    i belive this is the start of the goverment taken guns away from the people.how will this stop the gangs from getting guns?

  10. William Montgomery says:

    This bill would mean that only outlaws will have guns and the rest of us will be at their mercy. It is scary that such a bill would even be introduced. Defeat it!

  11. Douglas says:

    There is about 2,000,000 machine shops in this countary that are capable of making guns, some leagle and some illegal, remember when we bombed north Vietnams gun factories they simply move the work to hundreds of smass cotage works and made the parts by hand, the same way our longrifle makers did in the the early days of this countary. GET YOUR FILES OUT THEY MAKE WONDERFUL HAND MILLING MACHINES.

  12. lyle says:

    the HR45 bill is just one more step to creating a total controll gov. where peopse are powerless against the state. have you read the “PATRIOT ACT”?
    the goverment doesn’t even need a gun control bill to take away your guns or your rights. all they haveto do is declare you a national threat or terrorist and you as a citizen of the USA lose every, and i mean EVERY right and liberty that the CONSTITUTION provides and garuantees. look it up and check it out if you don’t believe me.

  13. daniel ethan says:

    it’s not obama. he has one power, to declar war. its congress. they are the ones who control the laws and regulations and the power to disregard the president’s vetoes. if you knew this, kudos to you. we need to solve the problem by properly, and legaly removing them from office with thier own rules, laws, and bi-laws, which we can do. violence should NOT be considered. violence breeds into violence, no matter the intent. thank you for you consideration and understanding.
    also, i need to get my hands on after-market parts, firing pins and the like. can any one help me?

  14. zinjiin says:

    The people who say they are for, the right to bear arms, are the same group who screwed over america so bad that the democrats were voted in to power.

    Either i have to give up all my rights and let the government controll me or I get to be a slave for Huge corporations while the upper 3% laugh all the way to the bank.

    First step, everyone needs to take basic civics class.
    There are to many retards out there that think the president writes bills, HELLO its congress, they even have this thing called a “veto overide” that means even if the president wont sign it into law they can “overide” it and pass it with out him.

    ALL party politicans must go. Time for the Independents to rise up and take back America.

    Become a Constitutionalist……..

  15. Dewayne says:

    This is the typical Democrat. I am retired US Army. I served 31 years. I love the USA. I fought in Desert shields, Desert Storm, Desert clean up, Kuwaity liberation and Iraq war. Loved every bit of it. I would die for my country. Like others. The Government will have to arrest me. Or possibly kill me. To take away my gun rights. The Government has to be stopped. God Bless America and God bless the 2nd amendment.

  16. Dewayne says:

    This is dictatorship. Obama and his fellow Democrats. Has got to be afraid. Or they just want to control us. I am a 31 year army retired soldier. I love my guns. I will not go with he HR45 law. They will have to arrest me or Kill me first. This is my priviledge.

  17. diana folkers says:

    all of you must not be able to read all the laws in your STATES WHERE YOU LIVE. everything that is stated in this bill is already on record with states. wake up and smell the gun powder.

  18. adam says:

    IF I TOLD YOU ALL ONCE I TOLD YOU A THOUSAND TIMES THIS MAN IS MUSLIM NOT AMERICAN. WHEN ARE YOU ALL GOING TO REALIZE THIS? HE WILL NOT EVEN PRODUCE A COPY OF HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE TO PROVE HE IS AN AMERICAN. WONDER WHY?

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